Child Support-Dead Beat Dads

I would like to know what a parent has to do in order to recieve child support in the state of Missouri.  My case has been with the department of Child Support Enforcement since my divorce in 1995.  My ex has been behind on child support to many times to even count.  This time it has been since May of 2005 since I've seen any child support.  I live in Pettis County, my ex lives in Jackson County, and our divorce was in Boone County.  My child support case worker sent my case to the Jackson County Prosecutor a few weeks ago.  He sent it back to her, saying he wouldn't prosecute because we weren't divorced there.  He said this even though he had just got though prosecuting him for non support to his current estranged wife.  They are not divorced yet, but both live in Jackson County.  So then my caseworker sent it to Boone County to be prosecuted.  That prosecutor sent the case back saying they wouldn't prosecute because neither one of us live in that County.  Now my final hope is the Pettis County prosecutor.  The way things are going I have serious doubts they will do anything either.  I can not for the life of me understand why Jackson County won't prosecute.  That is the county he lives in and I would think they would want to do something about criminals living in their county.  But, apparently, any man who wasn't divorced in Jackson County Missouri and wants to be a dead beat dad should just pack their bags and move there because they won't be prosecuted.  What is wrong with this system???  Can anyone help me with this?   

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looking for assistance

I am a working mother looking for assistance/funds to help support my children because my ex husband is in jail and a dead beat dad who owes over $24,000 in non-support. There should be something this state is willing to do to help make ends meet for working mothers who are not receiving their court ordered child support!!

Child support form the other side of the fence

Well I am new here. I can offer some commentary on the Missouri from the OTHER side of the fence in that I am a dad and I pay support. I'm basicly in one of these no win situations much like some of your previous posters in that the system has totaly failed me. I got divorced from a bipolar ex spouse about 3 years ago. She is one of the most irresponsible people in the world depsite having a masters degree! She is continuously out of work and being fired from jobs. We have a joint custody agreement  and my 2 kids live with me 50% of the time and I am primary custodian of one of them.  Before our divorce I voluntarily paid her $900 a month in support, which I couldn't afford. It was more than the form 14 said I should pay, but I paid it for my kids. I would up loosing my house and going bankrupt and having to move into a 2br apartment to keep paying my bills. Well time went along and the kids costs went down. In the divorce agreement, Form 14 said I should pay about $400. She couldn't survive on that, so I agreed to $700 voluntarily. BIG MISTAKE. After my son came out of daycare, she agreed to a reduction again. In the hopes I could then afford to get a 3br place for my kids so my son and daughter don't have to share a room. We ll we didn't go through the court fo that. now I find out she's filed papers on me saying I didn't pay her and trying to set up garnishment and arrears! I have always payed her voluntarily in full and on time usualy by direct deposit. I have never had a court have to tell me to pay. But it's like it';s never enough for her! While she was out of work her husband bought a $1200 cocatoo and then the next week they borrowed money from me to pay their electric bill! So far during her jobless periods I have lent her almost $1000 that I will probably never see again. I talked to an atorney and they told me under the law they will only change things every three years and basicly she has me over a barell. And to get custody would require about $6000 up front + more probably. Her constant inability to maintain employment and her constant demand for money is ruining my abiltiy to provide for my kdis when they live with me. I called Clay county child support and they basicly told me I'm screwed as well. What the hell kind of system is that? I feel like this whole system is rigged against the fathers in this situation. I try to be a good dad and am FAR from a deadbeat. But the system si rapidly forcing me into a situation where I'm either going to go bankrupt paying attorneys or bankrupt pay her outlandish support amounts. How exaclty is this susyem even remotley fair. For example on the Form 14 it calculates support base don combined income, but then in situations of joint 50/50 custody, I only get credit for 38% of that amoutn REGARDLESS of the fact they live with me 50% of the time! Somebody please explain that! It used to be like 25%! The problem is this form assumes around the OLD model of divoce and doesn't acknowledge modern joint custody arrangements. I agree with all the poseters here in that this system isn't remotley fair to either party, is broken, and needs major fixing. 

child support

You need to find a "father's rights" attorney..they are expensive but will get you off the hook.  At least you are paying..good for you..we all need to think t wice when children are born into a marriage.  I assume you were aware of her health problem early into the marriage.   So ignorance costs a lot of money.  Good luck

screwed by the system

in March 2003 my ex and I split up and I filed for state assistance while I looked for a job, in return the state filed a support order against my ex.  He was ordered to pay 176.00 a month support, which I never recieved.  I had found full-time work so the state stopped all cash benifits and lowered my foodstamps. Because I wasn't recieving any child support I had to get a second job, and of course with a second job came a second daycare provider.  I went to being a full-time mom  to working an average of 60 hr a week, I only got to spend 2 waking hrs with my children a day. and all this time I was forcing my ex to take them for his visitations,even though he wasn't paying a dime, it helped with day care cost, I even offered a mid-week visit.  Some non-custodial parents would love to have an ex so cooperative.

 In November of 2003 my oldest son was found to be sexually abused by my boyfriend at the time.  The day after the abuse was noticed I found out I was pregnant, and that night DFS took custody of my 2 oldest children.  They placed my daughter in the home of her father and my son went into the foster care system.  And after A few days he too went to live with their father.  Even though the courts knew I had nothing to do with the abuse, had no knowledge of it, and I removed the perpitrator from my life, the would only grant me supervised visitation,  which my ex never complied with.  My children and I went through a year and a half of fighting to see eachother.  Needless to say with all the stress in my life at the time my pregnancy didn't go very well. By month   2 I had to quit my part time job.  And by my 5th month my hours had to be cut to 25 a week.  And by the begining of the 7th I was on work release.  During this time I recieved my child support order, 424.00 a month plus medical and I owed 1,600 in back support. I wasn't even working.  Don't get me wrong I believe in paying support but 2 and a half times as much as his order, how was that fair.  Well I contested it and got it lowered to 386.00,  which was still 2 times as much as his order, and the back support remained.  I had my baby a month early, and only took a 4 week maternity leave.  As soon as I recieved my first pay check they were already garnishing my wages 50 %, which was before taxes.  So I was trying to support me and my newborn on less than 400.00 a month.  Which is impossible.  So once again I found myself at the welfare office, But there wasn't any help for me there.  See when you apply for state assistance and you are working they count you gross income, not you bring home income, so to them I was making more than enough to support my small family.  Well as hard as I tried to get help from them, I soon found myself homeless, with a 2 month old baby.(nice system huh)  So once again I got a second job, second caretaker, and second garnishment. Yes they garnished the wages of my second job by 50%.  My ex was recieving over 700.00 childsupport from me.  I stayed with friends until I saved enough money to rent a run down studio apartment.  Then as my luck would have it I was fired from my full time job.  But that actually worked out for the best, since I was fired I could recieve unemployment (which they garnished) but I could stay home with my baby more and not have to pay a babysitter.  

Okay, the follwing summer I finally won full custody of my son from the state, child support was ordered, for both children, 508.00 a month,  Boy was I happy to hear that.  Yeah if he paid it.  It has been over a year and I haven't recieved one dime from him, Do they prosecute, NO.  Do they garnish his wages, if he didn't work under the table they might.  As for my youngest child his father was ordered to pay child support, which he doesn't pay either.  I was totally screwed by the system and they just let these dead beat dads run ammuck and they don't even lift a finger to help our children.  I want a good satisfing life for my children, but I have to turn them down on little things that shouldn't be a problem, like the luxury of new clothes and shoes, we have to buy second hand. Weekly days out are out of the question because we can't afford the little extras.  when I was paying all that money out in child support you would think that my children would have the best of the best,  When thay would actually come for visits they never had new clothes or toys or shoes.  Instead my ex had extra money to buy drugs and cars with.  I love the way they would rip children away from a loving, hard working sober mother, and just hand them to a know drug trafficer and multiple offender.  And Not think twice about it. 

clay county is not that motivated

Just to let you know Clay county in missouri is not that motivated.  I can not tell you how many times we have been in and out of court with contempt charges, child endangerment, etc. due to my ex not paying child support and other actions. 

This time he has moved and bought a house in Wyandotte County Kansas.  He is building houses over there but Missouri does not have access to the state of Kansas information so clay county has asked wyandotte county to help with enforcement.  Which I have been told that it could take 6 to 12 months to get it in their system.  In the meantime, clay county has placed a note on my case stating that they will not prosecute until the non custodial parent is 5000.00 in arrears.  And just today the case worker told me to call back in 6 months if I haven't received a payment by then.  He's already 4 months behind and they want me to wait another 6 plus he had an arrearage that he was carrying too.  I don't understand why they would rather let him go than make him provide the financial assistance that he owes to my daughter.  He is married and has two other children in the home and another child that is younger than the first 3 outside of the home.  And yet clay county has no way to help you out in the time that you wait.  I over qualify to get any kind of help.  I thought Clay County was better than that. 

Child Support

Hi I'm new to the board , I'm Tina I live in Fl. & single mom to two daughters one of which is physically handicap .

My ex husband lives & works in Springfield , MO. and is well over $70,000.00 behind in child support .

I myself as you ladies stated are having diffuclt time getting MO C.S.E. to help assit in collecting the child support even though the case is in Fl. , Missouri is supposed to be helping.

My ex continues to move & switch jobs which is easy for him to do since he is a truck driver and most of the time is in a semi over the road driving .  His C.D.L. has been suspended but he is still driving & still collecting money

  C.S.E. here doesn't seem to do anything to help , every time he is found I myself had to do the leg work , I get new job addresses , numbers , new resident addresses for him but they seem to do nothing until he has enough time to run again .

I call C.S.E. approx. 3-4 times per week in hopes if I keep bugging them they will move my case along , I email  the governor of Fl. & the president , even write letters to C.S.E. office , faxed letters to them  .. Maybe they will get sick of me and do their jobs .

I can't afford another lawyer to collect the child support.

Any ideas of how to move the case along would be greatly appreciated .

To bad we all can't afford to rent billboards and post their mug shot of these deadbeat parents for all to see , They should be ashamed of themselves .  Or even have a t.v. show on weekly that expose deadbeat parents kinda like AMERICAS MOST WANTED DEADBEAT ?  

Child Support case worker doesn't do her job

Even though I do not reside in Missouri, my child support is handeled through the state of Missouri because I resided there when I got divorced.

My son is 19 and getting ready to attend college. This is a dream come true for him as he is disabled.

His father was to pay child support while he attended college for the next two years. He graduated High School 2006.

We turned in all the paperwork to the caseworker as directed proving he was attending college.

I called ( kept notes on day and times and contents of conversations) to confirm they recieved the paperwork and I called back on two more occasions asking what was going on the caseworker told me that the case was reactivated and so on. I called again and talked to a supervisor who told me caseworker instead did not document the calls or reactivate the case. She lied all the way down the line. She never did anything now the case is closed and they will not reopen it. Now my son can not go to college as I can not carry the expense myself.

This really makes me angry because why should an employee that is paid by all of our wages allowed not to do her job and than is protected by the office that is supposed to be protecting our children.

I am attemting to find a law firm to file suit against her,the office,the county and the state.

I see from this site that several other people are having problems as well, if we band together we may be able to force the state to rectify all the less than ethical practices.

If interested let me know lets see if we can make a difference.

What have you tried?

I am VERY interested in doing something about this child support "system" that is supposed to be looking out for the children.  My ex lives in Macon, Missouri.  I live in Columbia, SC.    He owes over $30,000 in child support and has now gotten into trouble some how and is in a Mental Hospital somewhere in Missouri. 

My paper work was filed Aug 2003 here in SC and it took 2 years for to get to a point were charges were filed against him.  He has 6 Felony counts of non support over $5000.00 that were filed 083105.  After the charges were filed, he got into trouble and was arrested, but the judge let him out.  Even with my pending warrant/charges.

I can't afford an attorney, but that is what I keep getting from everyone that I need to speak to an attorney in Missouri about this. 

The PA's office is telling me that if he is found mental I will be "out of luck".  How can these charges be "written off" if he was responsible for them before "going mental"? 

I think in cases like this that the STATE should be paying due to the delay it took to get the case taken care off.  If they had been on time, he would have been in jail way before he got in trouble and can now claim "mental". 

His attorney from the other case even called the CSE office and asked if there was a case on him, so he knew he owed the money.....how can he now not be responsible for it.  CSE didn't have the case until 6 months later when DSS got around to sending it to them.  

When I turned the paperwork in in 2003 he was already at a felony status owing over $9,000.  So why wasn't a warrant issued right away...by either SC or MO.

I don't get the delay in working cases.

I have sent an email to SC Governor, MO Governor, Dateline NBC, local NBC station, local CBS station  with absolutely NO response from anyone.

I am on board with any ideas that will get results. 

Sorry you had to file in SC...

I'm sorry you ended up having to file in SC. Not that Missouri is any sort of a rose with their child support laws but SC, under the guise of being "pro family" makes it very difficult to deal with domestic issues like this. The courts there actively make decisions that favor a family to stay together and tend to look the other way in CS enforcement also, even if the "family" is dysfunctional as hell and the delinquent parent owes the proverbial @#$%pot of money.

A very good friend of mine made the mistake of filing her divorce papers in SC after moving back to MO and it was a living hell for her for the next 4 1/2 years just to get a divorce. In retrospect, she would have been better off moving back here, slap a stalking charge on him, and filing the day after she'd lived in MO for thirty days. She had NO help from the SC courts in setting up child support and in custody issues for her two kids.

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